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238        WISCONSIN  HISTORICAL  COLLECTIONS.
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                        I             are referred to as  allies of Foxes,  and the fact that since they
                                     have been well known by the whites,  they have been in that al-
                         3           liance, may  have led  writers,  when  speaking of  the Foxes, to
                         I           associate the Sauks with them, though alluding to events which
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                                     occurred before that alliance took place.
                                       CARVER says:  "About  eighty years ago the Fox river was
                                     the residence of  the united  bands of  Outagamies (Foxes,) and
                                     the  Saukies."   This,  from  1766,  would  carry  them  back to
                                     1686, which agrees  with the known  occupancy of that point by
                                     the Foxes.  But  in  1712 and  1714, the Foxes are  mentioned
                                     without any  reference to the alliance; nor is such alliance men-
                                     tioned  until  1746,  and then only incidentally,  which  makes it
                                     probable that it  applied only to  the  Foxes,  and that CARVER
                                     associated  them, at that back  date,  by mistake,  because they
                                     were  associated when  he  saw  them, and it  is probable,  also,
                                     that other  writers  who have associated  them at a period prior
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                                     to that fixed by BLACK HAWK for the alliance, have fallen into
                         I           the same error, and from the same cause.  After as careful and
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                                     thorough sifting of the matter as tlie means at hand will enable
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                                     me to do,  I am  inclined to  favor BLACK HAWK'S dates,  as to
                                     the time of  their coming to Green Bay."
                                        After  their  alliance with  the Foxes, both of them appeared
                                     to  have  been  as  t,roublesome  to  their  neighbors  as  before.
                                     They  were  driven  by  the  French  and Indians  from the Fox
                                     to the Wisconsin river in 1746, according to GRIGNON'S Recol-
                                     lections.  But  it seems from  one of CARVER'B dates that they
                                     were on the Wisconsin river as early as 1736.  But these dates
                                     go  back  too  far,  to  agree  with  the time  of  emigration  from
                                     Quebec,  (1759)  It  was,  therefore,  either  the  Foxes  alone,
                         1           referred tb in these  last dates, or  there  is  an error  in  them.
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                                      CARVER found the Sauks on the Wisconsin river in 1766, seven

                         i             *It is not safe, as a general rule. to discard historic records, and give place
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                                     to mere tradition.  It is peculiarly so in this instance.  CHA~LBVOIX, a truth-
                                     ful historian, visited  Green Bay in 1720, and speaks in his published  Letters
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                                     of  that date, of  the Sauks  and their  viliages in such  a way as to convey the
                                     idea that they had long been occupants of  the country.   L. C. D.
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